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Turnabout Is Fair Play... Even in Politics
10/04/2002
The commercial showing President Bush pushing an elderly woman in a wheelchair off a cliff (description, stream) is outrageous. Out-RAGE-ous.
Tell Senator Jesse Helms that the Republicans don't care about the elderly. Tell all of the Republicans who are senior citizens or have elderly relatives that they don't care about older Americans.
We ought not politicize the well-being of senior citizens. We ought not politicize the working lives of every American. We ought not use stuttering mimicry of the President of the United States to frighten citizens into voting for Democrats.
The Democrats ought to apologize to President Bush, to Senator Helms, and to every Republican serving in the United States government who is or ever will be a senior citizen.
ADDENDUM:
This post is meant to be read in a heavy, snarling voice, preferably removing and replacing your eyeglasses several times and preferably on the floor of the Senate.
Posted by Justin Katz @ 01:01 PM EST
21 comments
the donks will lie, cheat, break the law do anything to win. they must think that they are doing the Lord's work, the self rightous bastards.
stuart millert @ 10/04/2002 01:25 PM EST
Haven't you figured out that your juvenile nonsense alienates more voters than it attracts?
Mark Wiesinger @ 10/04/2002 01:28 PM EST
The Democrats will NOT apologize.
When was the last time a Democrat apologized for something they actually had responsibility over?
Being a Democrat means never having to apologize.
R E Samson @ 10/04/2002 01:29 PM EST
OK, how about, "Republicans don't care about senior citizens not in their families, that they don't know, and especially that might be poor now or unlucky later."
BTW, there is no doubt that all Republicans, everywhere, have been including Senators Helms and Thurmond in their prayers ever since the 2000 election. So you're right, Republicans do care about some senior citizens they don't know.
Also, FYI, Republicans (and everybody else) in the Federal civil service are not covered by Social Security, anyway.
Dr. Limerick @ 10/04/2002 01:34 PM EST
Sheesh!
I'm starting to think that people aren't getting the joke...
Justin Katz @ 10/04/2002 01:37 PM EST
Mr. Wiesinger -- I assume you are a Democrat? Haven't you figured out that your support for lawless, hate-filled, lying, vicious behavior by Dem pols alienates more voters than it attracts? And will ultimately frustrate all of your political goals, because in our system of government you ultimately need bipartisan support to maintain laws and programs?
pj @ 10/04/2002 01:37 PM EST
I find it funny that people on the right are so offended by this -- aren't these the same people who gripe about how "politically correct" everyone has become?
Also, saying that President Bush and Senator Helms are or will be senior citizens is hardly a defense. These guys aren't exactly shaking in their boots about what will happen if Social Security takes a nosedive -- they're set for life, no matter what happens.
Matt Fugate @ 10/04/2002 01:38 PM EST
I would love to see the prez say this in the voice and demeanor of daschles blithering. Thank you for the laugh!!
JimC @ 10/04/2002 02:19 PM EST
Re: "Republicans (and everybody else) in the Federal civil service are not covered by Social Security, anyway." News to me. The old Civil Service Retirement System was essentially abolished (exept for grandfathered personnel) more than a dozen years ago. The current system is, essentially, SS.
Ron Butler @ 10/04/2002 02:34 PM EST
Democrats have nothing to say other than "raise taxes" on any issue and they love every government run ponzi scheme.
What is the Dem proposal to guarantee solvency of this program past 2030??
Rick @ 10/04/2002 02:35 PM EST
Anyone who has wasted valuable time at Dr. Limerick's site knows how much care he exercises when making assertions. Any Federal employee hired after the mid-80s is a part of the FERS system and pays into Social Security just like most of the rest of us.
Kevin Hurst @ 10/04/2002 03:14 PM EST
Dems can say whatever they want as long as it is factual, but more often they just list. Gore repeated the lie last week when he said that Bush wanted to privatize SS - what? A five percent voluntary expenditure into private holdings equals FULL PRIVATIZATION?? They're just liars - plain and simple.
Jimmie @ 10/04/2002 03:28 PM EST
Why argue politics with logical arguments when fear-mongering and sarcasm will suffice, eh comrades?
D. Helm from Grand Rapids, MI @ 10/04/2002 03:45 PM EST
Re Feds and Social Security: my mistake. My dad's wife, a retired FBI lifer, gets a non-SS pension and I (incorrectly, apparently) extrapolated from that.
Hey, Kevin, thanks for the plug, and please be assured that I stand ready to correct any errors of fact on my site(s).
Dr. Limerick @ 10/04/2002 03:55 PM EST
Kevin and Ron:
Is Pete duPont wrong then, in his WSJ piece this week, one paragraph of which reads, "On the other hand, there are some pretty good market-based retirement systems out there, with one of the best enjoyed by--who else?--members of Congress. Since 1986 the Federal Thrift Savings Plan has congressmen to contribute up to $10,500 a year into a personal account that can be invested among five market funds of varying stock and bond mixes. The worst-performing fund has averaged over 4.3% growth annually; Social Security's yield is but 2%. When Rep. Robert Walker (R., Pa.) and Rep. Pat Schroeder (D., Colo.) retired in 1997 they had each accumulated $4.1 million under these plans, which they took with them when they left." That doesn't sound anything like the SS the rest of us live under.
terry @ 10/04/2002 06:18 PM EST
Hey, I think this is a great game. The packaderms should have a flash Dashelle shutting down the Senate with an anthrax letter chasing him. The oratory could have him saying, "let's debate this Iraqi invasion thing." The commentary could say, "If Dashelle seems to be a chickenshit, it's because he is."
Jerry Dorsey @ 10/04/2002 08:04 PM EST
So now it is politically correct Republicans?
This was funny and true.
The conservative and strong Bush supporter Houston Chronicle had a Bush quote that he wanted Social Security 100% in the stock market.
Gary @ 10/04/2002 08:46 PM EST
The only response of knee-jerk liberals regarding the privatizing of SS has been "NO WAY, JOSE!" No alternative plans have been floated although we all know that the so-called SS Trust Fund will go into the red in the next 15-20 years per the SSA's own estimates. Of course, we all know that the so-called SS Trust Fund is a Big Lie. No such thing. It all goes into the general fund and becomes fungible. Its all mixed in with other revenues. That means its only on paper to you liberal idiots. Even a passbook savings account would be better than the current system. It would be nice to know that my money was just that...my money. My kids would inherit it when I died. What a concept!
Jim @ 10/04/2002 10:32 PM EST
RE: Gary
Produce the quote.
Rick @ 10/05/2002 10:03 AM EST
Well, if the issue is going to become Social Security itself, we have to acknowledge (as Jim did) that the market will go up and down within a limited window, but Social Security is a hopeless scam. (Personally, if it should come to pass, I can't wait to see how SS proponents attempt to spin it as not their fault.)
I see Social Security as a car with infinite miles to the gallon... as long as it's going downhill (increasing working population over generations). I think it only makes sense that folks have the option to invest in faster cars as well as to use some of their funds to stockpile their own stores of gasoline.
(Hey, waddaya want? It's Saturday.)
Justin Katz @ 10/05/2002 10:23 AM EST
Justin: They will spin it like the idiotarians/itellectuals try to explain communisms failure; "It was never true communism" or "it was not implemented correctly" or some such garbage.
BTW - Still waiting for the Bush 100% privatization/stock market quote and the Dem solution to the impending bankruptcy of SSI.
I realize that waiting for a Domocrat to do anything other than naysay Republican proposals is probably hopeless BUT I thought it might be worth a shot.
Rick @ 10/05/2002 08:00 PM EST